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June 19th, 2009
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Sh*t, let me introduce you to Fan
FOTA to set up breakway series
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76292

Could be the ultimate bluff, of course.

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From:k425
Date:June 19th, 2009 11:29 am (UTC)
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I wonder if Lola and ProDrive will try to join them?
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From:oldbloke
Date:June 19th, 2009 02:55 pm (UTC)
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Bit more than just politics and money, this time. Max is rewriting not only the rulebook, but the way the rulebook gets rewritten. And his long-term target is a spec formula, which none of the teams want, and wouldn't be F1 in any meaningful way.
They won't be allowed to call it F1 - but I think it's the FIA who have control of that name, rather than Bernie.
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From:oldbloke
Date:June 19th, 2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
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Heh.
It's only a couple of weeks since Ferrari said to the FIA "Hey we have this contract" and the FIA said "No, something you did invalidated that ages ago (but we didn't mention it until now when it became convenient for us)". I suspect the teams will argue that those contracts refer to a form of racing that no longer exists thanks to Max's wholesale rule changes.
Montezemolo's also dropped heavy hints he may take Ferrari to Le Mans instead of messing about with single seaters.
I bet Ron Dennis is glad he's out of it!
I wonder how viable the FIA is at all without the F1 money, actually - a lot of major series manage quite happily without its help/interference.
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From:oldbloke
Date:June 19th, 2009 10:09 pm (UTC)
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A1GP? I'd watch it if it was on a channel I have, I understand it's quite entertaining. Spec formulas actually tend to give better TV, just as a 20:20 cricket match is usually more engaging than a 5 day test to the non-expert.
I used to laugh my socks off watching the Clio Cup, for example, and when I go to watch live I like Caterhams and Legends, where there's not much they're allowed to do to the cars. But just as real cricket fans will stay up all night watching test cricket from Aus on satellite, so I like my F1.
And the breakaway is more likely to be like F1 than F1 will be. There's a formula called GP2, I always wondered if they were /deliberately/ leaving room for GP1.
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From:anshackles
Date:June 20th, 2009 06:45 am (UTC)
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yeah, I wondered if it was a bluff. but if so, will Bernie and Max call, or raise, or will FOTA in the end fold?

Or will Bernie collude to get max kicked out?

single-type racing can be much more interesting, but in critical ways it ain't F1. I'd not be tempted to stay up late or get up early to watch the culminating round in a single-type series, I don't think. I like the analogy with the cricket: the 20-20 or one-day stuff is in some ways more interesting, but not to the genuine cricket buffs who on;y watch it as something to pass the time between tests.

I'd also tend to agree with limiting spending, if that's the only thing they were doing, as it does all seem to have got a bit silly. But then again, this is nothing very new - for many decades the Grands Prix have been the top level racing and have always had a lot of money spent on them - the difference now seems to be that many teams are not "normal" car makers, whereas most in the past were.
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